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What Will Happen When You Move to Dubai

January 9th, 2009  |  Published in general  |  43 Comments

Hi. You’ve made it. You now live in the promised land where milk and honey runneth over… supposedly. It’s full of opportunities and possibilities. The Middle East at your feet. The world not too far away. But here’s what will really happen, and there’s no avoiding it.

You’ll never stop talking about rent.
Funny. Shouldn’t the idea of rent be like all those other things you do monthly but never discuss, like trimming your fingernails or going for a wax? If you live in Dubai you’ll talk about it non-stop. Before you get here, you’ll be trying to find a decently-priced place to live. Good luck, because so are tens of thousands of us. At any one time. When you find that place to rent, there’s a eight out of ten chance that you’ll be doing this again because there will always be something fundamentally wrong about where you’re living in. (1) Sleazy landlords (2) heart-stopping new expenses you suddenly have to pay for (3) sleazy something or other. Every possible drama to do with living in Dubai has to do with rent. But once you get here, a little microchip gets implanted in your head. You’ll never be able to stop talking about it. How much is rent in this place? That place? How many rooms? How many people in it? The landlord is awful, too? It’s like going to a party and finding out they only play Shakira (which, by the way, happens in Dubai). Oh, and get used to the idea of spending 50% to 75% of your salary on rent.

All your ideas about urban planning and the lay of the land will slowly be replaced by the names of property developments and the malls around them.
Dubai is a badly laid out city. Most structures and neighbourhoods didn’t even exist two years ago. As a white-collar expat, you’re quite likely to be headed for the other side of Dubai — New Dubai. As the car/taxi takes you down Sheikh Zayed Road, which you will no doubt traverse daily from now on, note that the entire stretch of skyscrapers from here to the end of Dubai didn’t even exist five years ago. The neighbourhoods are mostly new. There is no history or sense of time and place. In the place of what we know as the landmarks of neighbourhoods and the families that live there, brace yourself for… property developers and the new and not-so-new (by Dubai standards anyway) neighbourhoods they conjure out of thin air. You only need to remember one thing: they all look the same, even if they come in different configurations. The Greens. The Springs. Discovery Gardens. Green Community. International City. Every single suburb will be vaguely hell-ish and there will be no litter on the floor. They will all have tree-lined boulevards that make you think you’re in the Truman Show, and there will be enough space for exactly one SUV. Two, if you’re slightly further up the ladder and have enough to rent your own pad by the year instead of ‘renting the room by the month with five other people’.

When it comes to directions, and you’ll be spending most of your time dealing in the reception and dispensation of directions and related activities (such as following them and getting lost), this peculiar quirk of urban planning will shine through. Unlike any other city in the world, you’ll be dealing with names that don’t make any sense at all. It’s likely to be between Interchange Three and Four, take a turn off Al Wasl into 9C, turn right again into 40A; or more likely, if you go past Wafi (a mall) and keep heading straight past Festival City (another mall), take a right into the area of Dubai Mall (the biggest mall at the moment) and then…. or past the Greens, Marina, Springs, Discovery Gardens, (insert any other soulless residential community).

If you look vaguely Russian or Eastern European, and you have boobs, you’ll start thinking of making Not For Sale placards. Or you’ll just give up on the idea of nightlife, in general.
Enough said.

Actually, if you have boobs at all…
You’ll catch on quite quickly that you’re generally an object to be looked at and pretty soon you won’t even notice anymore. Men outnumber women by something like three to one. The majority of this surplus men have zero chance at romance because they tend to have been shipped here by the planeloads and set to work in gruelling conditions and have little in terms of leisure time or personal space. Most will have zero contact with the fairer sex. They’re still human after all, and in a city that pretends it doesn’t have fleshly needs, they are found on the beach every weekend looking longingly at women. It’s a little creepy, but understandable. Elsewhere, if you’re female, prepare to be accosted by men in just about any imaginable situation, even professional ones. Taxi drivers will do and say bizarre things (like if you book a taxi, they get your phone number and they will use it inappropriately; I also receive countless marriage proposals, usually from that country north of India). I feel more inconspicuous in the streets of Ahmedabad than I do in certain parts of this city. And it’s not how you dress either, because I know Muslim women who are completely covered and still they complain, “what on earth are they looking at?” I’m still wondering.

You become your job.
This is the most work-oriented society I’ve ever known. For someone from East Asia to say that is a pretty big deal. For this reason though, many people stick around because it is true — you do get professional opportunities at a level you wouldn’t elsewhere, in many fields. But it also comes at a cost. It’s for this reason that I’m not getting in the swing of the city either, because… God knows I can’t do ‘jobs’. I’ll never complain about Singapore’s mechanical drones ever again.

You’ll quickly wisen up to the idea that money doesn’t talk, it shouts.
And it’s not a nice sound. Wow. How do I even begin to convey the true extent of this? Capitalism on steroids is one way. Unreserved passion for money is another. Money really is everything here, is all I can say. Even if you like the sound and smell of money, you should really come live here for a while and see if it doesn’t sicken you just a little bit.

You’ll feel like you’re in school all over again.
Not as much for the educational value of living here (which is plenty, there’s plenty to learn and un-learn and re-learn, daily). It’s more like you’re likely to run into so many issues about your personal life you’ll wonder why it’s anybody’s business at all. No matter what. If you’re single but attached, your landlord will decide that your boyfriend cannot come visit you because… it’s immoral. If you’re married, and your friend of the opposite sex comes to visit, your wife will have to come downstairs to get her with you just so that the security guys don’t think you’re cheating. True stories, all.) Your landlady will say, that boy who was here? Did he stay over? He’s not allowed to! The other girls will complain! (But nobody really cares, only she does.) You’ll spend a lot of time just sneaking around, answering unwanted questions even your mother won’t think to ask you. Just because.

And one day they will decide that it’s immoral for you, as a single expat, to live in a villa with other unmarried expats (even if they’re all in different rooms). And all of a sudden, the only affordable accommodation option will disappear when they come around to kick you out.

You’ll keep going to the same places.
The same brunch, the same people, the same Barasti, the same bars, the same… everything is the same. Even if they have a different name, even if they’re new. They’ll be the same old high price and similar quality (i.e. low). It’s just like their buildings: expensive, but ultimately tasteless and pointless. Same with the majority of its restaurants and bars.

Everyone leaves.
If Dubai is wondering why nobody stays at all, it comes down to this. Dubai ultimately treats its foreign talent (that’s almost 85% of the people in the city) as temporary guests. It doesn’t matter if you’ve been here for a month, ten, or fifty years. You’re welcome to leave at any time; you’re always a number, you’re always replaceable. Cities are not one way streets, and you can’t buy love with money. The Dubai deal isn’t even as lucrative as it used to be anymore. Rent is grossly expensive (you’d think London was cheap in comparison), and salaries simply aren’t scaling. There’s a blatant disregard for people’s needs. I know of companies within my area whose honchos have cut jobs, and reduced salaries dramatically, then appeared in brand new Maseratis. Laws and general behaviour on labour and employment are stuck in the Middle Ages. And the current economic situation — the one we’re told we’re doing a marvellous job in (because the media makes Singapore media look like a free press) — is making this harder than it already is. At an interview a few days ago, the HR manager of a large shipping company told me off the record that when he sent his employee to get his residence visa cancelled, he went at five in the morning and he was #300 in line. Something’s definitely changed. Everyone is suddenly talking about leaving, even the ones who were planning to stay for a couple of years. Not even for presumed opportunities elsewhere — just needing to leave.

I know I am. I have seventy days to go here, and yet those seventy days still seem like they’ll be the longest seventy days of 2009.

Let’s just come out and say it: I fucking hate Dubai. I never thought I’d say this about any place in the world, but I won’t care very much if I never came back to this hellhole ever again in my life. I came here with zero expectations, and yet I’ve been miserable ever since I got here. Despite trying for months to try to find one thing that might make me change my mind, I haven’t found it. All the things that it has going for it are quite easily replaceable. I’m displeased with available dining options and have taken to not eating: at the high end you pay over and beyond Michelin star prices for completely mediocre fare, at the middle end you get average factory-quality food, and at the low end are all Indian restaurants from Chennai anyway. There are a few okay restaurants, but if you take your food as seriously as I do, you’re going to be miserable. In short, I find Dubai completely unlivable. The only thing I have left going for me here is a trip I intend to take to Yemen, if that’s the last thing I do here, because I don’t think I’ll be back in this part of the world for a long time. I feel like I’m losing my mind here. I want to punch something every single day I’m here, and when I head back here after brief spells abroad… I literally cry. I’m sorry, but I don’t see the allure. Am I missing something?

  • Dilip Muralidaran
    I don't expect any miracle to come out of a place that moral polices people based on a pedophiles writing on a desert dogma book 1300 years ago. Its a pity about the sex ratio problem. We stupid indians are killing women and female children by the millions too and i can already feel the pinch, its hard to come by a decent girl in town. I wonder where they all went?

    Like the old saying "One who lives by the sword, dies by the sword". Dogma ruled places will die by dogma.

    I feel quite bad reading things like "and you have boobs, you’ll start thinking of making Not For Sale placards" but then that's exactly what you would expect to see in a paternal society. Muslim countries will on the whole face this situation more because of their exorbitantly unrealistic lifestyle of abstinence and moral policing.

    All i can say is, just bite your teeth and push the next 70 days and get out of there. Any place not ruled by the sharia or sharia/quran based system is heaven.
  • Lainie
    /shrug
    any place that can make you threaten to stop complaining about singapore...
  • popagandhi
    @lainie Singapore, despite how much I hate it, is heaven compared to Dubai. Heaven, I tell you.
  • popagandhi
    @dilip i think you might run into a bit of opposition here on your description of the quran (and from me too, because i am personally interested in the muslim faith and what it really represents), but it's not my place to censor that. (though several people after me will most likely take issue)
  • Dilip Muralidaran
    @adri: i have no sympathy for a book (for that matter any book) that does just one thing, "discriminate". i'm simply curious, what part of the quran do you like or rather what do you like about the quran that it represents so well?
  • charlesfrith
    Even if I'd tried to 'sell' you Beijing I don't think it would have worked - because I asked myself what would I have done.

    But in any case making mistakes makes you smarter.

    Don't be hard of Dubai. It only wanted to be recognised for more than it's bank account, but only ever used money to show it.
  • popagandhi
    @dilipm religious texts of all faiths, especially the great monotheistic ones, have to be taken in the context they were written in. the quran is, at its core, like the bible, the scripture laying down the commandments of the one God we adherents of the Abrahamic faiths believe in (i'm christian), despite our differences - i believe it needs to be accorded due respect. i've read the quran as best as i can and it is in many ways a rational 'book' that sets the foundation for a great religion - one that's been grossly misrepresented today. even if it contains fragments that can be taken to be 'discriminatory', so do ancient scriptures of any sort, whether jewish, christian or even hindu. i don't think islam as it is practiced in dubai (or any else where i know; i can't speak for the heart of real arabia) discriminates women in the way it's often thought to be, although there are moral strictures. i'm generally sympathetic to that faith, and i need it needs to be treated with more respect from all quarters.
  • popagandhi
    @charles beijing, eh? i've been following www.sexybeijing.tv and it's suddenly looking very very attractive. i love the beijing mandarin accent, for one, and would give my right arm to be able to speak a little more like that. my post-dubai plan is to set myself up to... well, be living around different parts of asia at different parts of the year. i have a feeling it's going to work, and when that happens beijing could.. show up on this roster of asian cities (and beach towns). :)
  • Dilip Muralidaran
    @adri: i completely fail to agree the "quran" as a rational book. If quran was rational then hitler should be a saint and a martyr and osama should be a messiah. i could pick verses with proper context from the quran that calls women diseased during their periods, asks them to be under the men and submit themselves to abuse.

    scripture is not written in one form to mean one thing. its written in many forms to suit the needs of various times and political structures. the bible, the quran and the gita were all written when we thought the earth was flat & the sun went around the earth.

    i think i would stop right here, since i personally don't know you well enough i have no idea how an atheist like myself would sound rational enough, since you believe all religions deserve respect. i'm of the opinion that respect is earned and not given.
  • popagandhi
    @dilip hinduism as it is practised in bali, many parts of the old testament in the bible, and the jewish torah... refers to women's 'disease' and not letting them 'defile' the temples by banning them from places of worship during their periods. not exclusive to islam. submitting to men? same thing. whether or not i believe in God (i do, the christian one in particular), i believe all religions (except scientology) deserves respect. i spend enough of my time trying to make sense of peculiar hindu traditions (i write about them for pop-'cultural' magazines) and... none of it makes any sense at all, actually. but they are belief systems whose sum wisdom exceeds every possible realm of my understanding and it is not my place to judge any culture or its beliefs. and none of what i said in this post has anything to do with islam, really, nor with dubai being a muslim society. i just found the 'pedophiles in the desert' extremely rude. i disagree with pedophilia and polygamy, but can see how at the time the book was written, what we know today to be pedophilia and polygamy were 'necessary' in the time of great famine, war and suffering, when marrying these women and children meant they had shelter and family. it's unfortunate that these have to be taken as justification for today's malpractices, but that was the way things were then. the same way nobody particularly takes offence when women are told we're defiling and diseased during our periods in Leviticus.
  • popagandhi
    @dilipm the 'inspiration' behind the remarks i made about the challenges of being a woman here... mostly comes from the indian/pakistani community, btw.
  • Divya
    @dilipm I am an atheist too, but I dont think that means condemning religions on the whole (or Islam in particular). Each religion had roots in the culture and history of a place it was born into (as Adri mentions) and the structures have evolved over time. Hinduism is as "bad" as Islam if you look at the treatment of women in India over centuries.
  • Jason
    interesting bit about the residential developments. sounds like they took Singapore's style to the extreme? :)
  • erro0257
    I spent 6 months in saudi arabi in the early 90's. I saw the same preoccupation with money. There was more history in the area but the religious police made many things difficult to do if you were not well informed on local customs and holidays.

    Of course, being male, I doubt I had anything like the interactions you are having when interacting with the locals.
  • Howard
    "It’s just like their buildings: expensive, but ultimately tasteless and pointless." - Dubai in one sentence.
  • Dilip Muralidaran
    @adri, @Divya: it appears my situation has been terribly misunderstood. im "NOT" a hindu. i think i clearly said im an atheist. im "NOT" supporting hinduism or any other dogma that discriminates women, sexual minority or my pet cat :P

    because something has roots in culture, i so no reason why something should be given special consideration. hitler was a part of the german culture too in his times. he brought germany together like no other leader did and moved a mass military the modern world has ever seen. however we dont justify the persecution of jews today because hitler was a part of history and culture.

    so my take is not as you seem to understand here. no, hinduism or christianity or islam or pink invisible teapot (which is a religion too), none of them deserve a place in modern civilization. the only different between islam and other dogma's though is that they believe blowing up things will prevent criticism of islam, which im sure will never happen.

    its very funny to me because from what i see from the comments like "not exclusive to islam" it appears to be the case that religious people are actually justifying the discimination of women because "every religion does it, so why not this one" kind of an attitude.

    finally, when i said pedophile, i meant it as no insult but fact. to marry a 6 year old "child" and "consummate" the wedding when she was 9 may be an accepted practice 1300 years ago. today, any law book in any country across the world will tell u that its pedophilia. so, no. did i mean it as an insult, no. did i quote it as a historical fact as per the quran, yes. if religion was any way concerned about relevance we should see revised versions of our holy books that condemn marrying 9 year olds and killing the infidels but we dont. we still see 58 year olds marrying 9 year olds and cowards blowing themselves up in front of an orphanage full of children. so no, religion does not care about relevancy or consistency in its approach.

    i understand where your blog comes from, the perspective of your experiences while living in dubai and the things you see around you. being not influenced by a religion i fail to sympathize with any of them, in particular the 3 desert dogma's. hence i fail to see how islam is not ruining dubai or should i put it correctly "fundamental islam" is not ruining dubai and its social living conditions.
  • Kelvin
    Interesting insights!
  • Dizzydee
    One of the best Dubai-trashings I've read so far. Figured you wouldn't like it much....its kinda not a real city in my book. Had toyed with the idea of spending some time inthe Middle East and kinda came to the conclusion Syria or Lebanon would provide a more meaningful experience(once the rockets stop!).

    Pretty sure you will like Beijing more...

    D.

    p.s. Pretty amusing how a Dubai commentary morphed into a religious debate (one that I'll stay well clear off!)
  • Kiran Jonnalagadda
    Dilip has invoked Godwin's Law. The discussion has derailed, ladies and gentlemen. You may go home now.
  • Dilip Muralidaran
    @Kiran: Lol, you are funny. :D Thanks for using the Red Herring technique to throw this discussion off track. :P
  • quitacet
    would the lifestyle you experienced be much different if you had been, say, an investment banker/mgmt consultant etc with a higher disposable income to deal with all the rent and cost issues?
  • godma
    Adri trapped in the investment banker life? Seriously...that would just take the misery to a whole other level!
  • Mike
    Sorry to hear Dubai ain't doing it for you, Adri.

    This might be of interest: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v31/n01/mant01_.html [Mantel's fascination with the supernatural is an irritant (perhaps not so much for a theist? ... I'm chary of getting into religion, observing this thread), but she's a very good writer.]

    Irony: my next novel is going to feature a ghost sighting [taken from real life (not mine, though)]! I am writing the first 2,500 words of it to apply for the David T. K. Wong Fellowship at U.E.A. You should apply for it too ... just in case you weren't busy enough! Deadline is 31/1. http://www.uea.ac.uk/lit/awards/wong

    As for my current MS, it is so anti-clerical that if it gets published I am going to be Rushdie 2.0 ...
  • Geo
    I'm touched. I'm speechless. The renting, the poor people, the job pressure, the stupid bars. At the end, everyone has his/her own reason to come to Dubai. I only hope that this reason is really worthy for the person, and that it will balance all the negative sides of living in Dubai. God bless all the people. Are you heading back home ? :)
  • geor
    coudnt be better said. And I was in that place for 17 years. I remember I was in wafi a couple of months ago, and the entire mall was deserted. It was like a dream, I was walking through countless corridors to find one bloody shop. The crappy signage wasnt helping either. Once I found the shop I had to deal with the sales people who were really snobby. Thats another thing I hate about Dubai. The people. Specifically the people who are earning more than they could ever spend in one lifetime. The gap is so obvious, as is the discrimination. A lot of Arabs are especially racially hateful. Just waiting for the day when it all comes crashing down.
  • nadyne
    I really enjoyed reading your piece. I was in Dubai a few times a few years ago, for a maximum of about one week each time, and I mostly share your sentiments. I felt that Dubai had no room for family, and that it's a place to make lots of money and get out. The weather was harsh and oh it was awful. I wouldn't even be able to compare it with Singapore.

    Hope the 70 days pass by quickly for you. Cheers.
  • rebecca
    lovely writing. u know, i really wanna go to dubai to see for myself the horridness of it all. it is a sad thing to have soulless cities like that...and i think of the children who grow up in such a place. what would become of them??
  • Jason
    oh dear.. no more oil rigs off dubai for me now.. it sounds really scary. I never thought adrianna tan (who loves every-fucking-where) could hate a place!!
  • popagandhi
    @Geo Heading home? I don't know what home is. Or where. I'll likely be wandering about the world trying to find it Though I'll likely 'settle' in a part of Asia not too far from Singapore. I don't have any positive reasons that balances out my Dubai experience. Pity that, but... I did try. And it's not city enough for me.

    @quitacet as far as i know, these are issues that EVERYBODY goes through. doesn't matter how much money you make. there's just... no getting away from any of this.

    @geor 17 years?? what were you thinking? wafi is the most soulless place i have ever stepped foot in. i hate it.
  • Caret
    Hmm. Great article, great discussion.

    dilipm sounds rather harsh at first encounter. So much so, I thought he might be a recent convert to atheism. Nevertheless, many of his points are valid. Whatever the justifications at point of origin (before islam the arabs used to bury girl babies alive) today there is no surplus and thus little reason for 4 wives per man.

    While I also wish that the discussion had not become about religion, I do not think it is possible to have ANY discussion about the middle east without islam coming into the conversation. The elephant in the room...

    The gradual "moral" oppression and dumbing down of the masses has led to the empowerment of fundamentalism and militancy (and not only in muslim countries). Since the typical moderate muslim is unwilling or unable (afraid) to speak up and shut down the extremists, I see nothing but danger for the future. The next world war will be split along religious lines and will make the crusades look like a Sunday romp. I wish it were not so.

    The Ottomans ruled these lands for close to 400 years. Even today the Turkish language contains a plethora of proverbs putting down the arabs. e.g. Neither the candy of Damascus nor the face of the arab. (No, I cannot explain either half of that. Just reporting.)

    I have heard similarly unpleasant stories about arrogance, sense of entitlement, discrimination, abuse and so on in Kuwait, Qatar, Iran, et al. At this point there is no job, no lottery prize, no incentive that would take me anywhere near these countries. A shame but that's the way it is.

    Sorry to learn about Singapore though, I had hoped to go one day...
  • Dilip Muralidaran
    @Caret: I've been an atheist for about 5 years now. I do not know if that is "recent". Maybe in the evolutionary perspective, it tool 4.6 billion years for the first single cellular organism to pop-up. It took, about 150,000 years for apes to evolve into homo erectus. So maybe, im quite recent by all means :P

    I believe in calling things by their names. If you read the Arab history, before this Mohammad terrorist arrived the Arab's had the sun god and the moon god and guess what? God was a female, she was respected and treated like a human should be, unlike how Islam treats women like cattle.

    Then came along Mohammad and claims only to him, in a lonely place where no one was looking did an angel speak to reveal the secrets of the universe and then starts the downfall of women in the Arab culture.

    Paganism was gotten ridden off and the moon god came to existence. A land which allows divorce by saying "talaq" thrice, is a barbaric and uncivilized land.

    I fail to sympathize with people who discriminate. Especially the women and the minority. Be it Hindu, Catholic or a Muslim, they are all here to argue without evidence, by the iron hand of authority. We could only assume barbaric practices were a thing of the past but they very much exist in the name of religion, today.

    To quote the intensity of our atrocious nature to discount every crime in the name of religion, here is an example. I'm sure none of us here would ever look at two lovely children playing in the park and say "how lovely the communist child and the capitalist child are playing together". Why? Because we know children do not have the maturity to decide on their political affiliation. We call them child of a communist parent or child of a capitalist parent.

    However it is perfectly acceptable practice in today's society to say "how lovely the Catholic child and the Mormon child are playing together". Even though we know children cannot decide religion for themselves because they lack the mental maturity to amke such complex decisions, we speak of a child's religion just because it was born to parents in that particular religion. See where im coming from?

    This is why i say we discount all crimes based on religion. In India if someone asks me why i'm staying over at a female friends place, i could ask them to mind their own business and bugger off, in Dubai you can dream of doing that. I could keep adding on but i would only end up sounding like a troll. The conversation/dialogue would not be meaningful.
  • p
    hi !
    try Zinc club @ crowne plaza along sheik zayed for the grrrls (teehee)
    not much consolation for a trashy city, but hey, thats something
    :D
  • Rohan Venkat
    Heh, I like the conclusion that you got to. It's what an educated traveler should feel about Dubai after being there for any time longer than 2 weeks.

    The great unfulfillable hope of all the Emiratis (and Qataris and Kuwaitis), is that only people as rich as them come to the country and all the other people needed to keep the country going disappear behind the screen. What else could explain that boneheaded desire to build expensive mall after mall, and more and more high-rent neighbourhoods.

    They then proceed to keep the labourers and lower class out of the malls (no single men, they even used the adjective 'stinky' in Qatar, but that doesn't extend to thobe-wearers or white people), and also force them into the same shoddy housing with unrealistic prices because all the new houses are only for people who can afford those stupid 99 year leases.

    I'm glad you acknowledge the creepy but understandable leching that goes on. I know far too many girls (Desi, White or Local) who complain about it and then dismiss it as something that men do, almost legitimising the need to wear hijabs or abayas, without considering why it happens.

    Still, with all the the things I hate about this (sometimes, in my mind, undeservingly) rich part of the Middle East, having spent pretty much all my life in Doha, I've found things to like about it. I'll always say, for middle-class people, it's a reasonably good place for people to bring up their young kids, assuming they have chances to play sports (Gulf obesity is legendary), and if you have money, an okay place to retire, because it's mostly safe, secure, and easy to fly out of.

    But after a certain age, kids HAVE to leave to see what the world is like. As a kid growing up, I can tell you that the ultimate aim of pretty much all of us was to leave the country. That's changing now, these kids in schools here these days all want to stay (which surprises me to no end). So maybe some of these cities (definitely Doha and Muscat, but Abu Dhabi and Sharjah more than Dubai) are slowly building actual communities.

    There are a few interesting things for a budding journalist and sociologist, if they were allowed to talk about it; like how these multi-cultural cities have no mixing of the 'multi-cultures' at all; or what legacy the local kids are growing up with.

    I mean, the gulf even 50 years ago would've been very very interesting, what with all the trade, the more multi-cultural nature of that time (most locals could speak Hindi and used the rupee as currency), so it's interesting to see how these kids, with tremendous amounts of wealth and no sense of what it takes to earn that, look at the world.

    But that was just my rambling, random response to some of the ideas that came out in your post. Go to Yemen, you'll enjoy the reality it brings out, and as someone said above, go check out the poorer middle-east, it's a lot more interesting.
  • popagandhi
    @rohan

    thanks for your enlightening insights. i really did NOT want to make those conclusions about dubai. i didn't need to love it, but... i had no idea that i would detest it so. reading that now, i reckon i might have been too hard on the city, but i did move into it at the worst time possible - right before the crisis began. it definitely feels like a different city now. people say so, and even dubai as of now compared to dubai of october.. feels.. worlds apart. i can't put my finger on it yet, but the economic problems that are only just setting in aren't making this place any cozier or friendlier.

    i moved here expecting to be able to 'see the middle east' from here. in many ways it is a great base for that. cheap flights, easily getting to places in the region. i guess what happened is what happens to every expat: you get so caught up with work, your job, where to find pork and beer. i didn't really, but i can see how that set in. managed to travel as much as i could have humanly achieved, but still found syria and jordan too far away.

    that's going to change though, because i AM going to yemen (god bless kuwait's jazeera airways; dubai-sanaa return for just USD150). i desperately want to make it to sanaa because i know it's going to be worlds apart, literally. world's oldest city and all. and i'm also slotting in a fairly extensive trip around the real middle east (i.e. syria, maybe lebanon) for after i quit dubai.
  • Gary Arndt
    Really interesting article. I've been traveling around the world for the last two years and am currently in Dubai. In the week I've been here, I've found it frustrating and not really much of a tourist attraction.

    Having been to Singapore and Hong Kong, I find them to be much more enjoyable cities. There isn't much in Dubai if you don't have a yacht. It will be interesting to see if the rest of the Gulf is the same.
  • V
    @Rohan
    I’ll always say, for middle-class people, it’s a reasonably good place for people to bring up their young kids, assuming they have chances to play sports (Gulf obesity is legendary), and if you have money, an okay place to retire, because it’s mostly safe, secure, and easy to fly out of.

    Hi Rohan.. I have been in Doha for over 20 years too and this is no longer a good place for middle class people to bring up their kids. It might be safe politically, but you don't have security. There are plenty of nightmarish tales of people being sacked without notice and having to leave in the middle of the school year. Expatriates who came to Qatar 30 years ago and helped build this country to what it is now, don't have the option of retiring here. Oh no, they don't. They are still treated like second class citizens. Quite recently, stories are coming out of people from non-Islamic religions being deported for practicing their faith in large groups behind closed doors. This is just the tip of the iceberg. Doha maybe a good place for Westerners. Because in the social hierarchy they have a good place. Locals (Qataris/Emiratis/as applies)>Arabs (Lebanese/Palestinians/Jordanians etc)>Caucasians(Americans/Brits/etc)>Middle Class Asians (Indians/Pakistanis in white collar jobs> Far East Asians(Indonesians/Philipinos who work in receptions/Parlors/service industries)>All asians in all blue collar jobs(bus drivers/maids/construction workers
  • Tom
    I agree, with all who hate Dubai. This place and country suck big time. I am stuck here for the next 5 months. It will be hell, and I even live in a 5 million pound home on Palm Jumeriah! My 6 figure income is not enough to live in this hellhole. No freedom.No freedom. No freedom. Enough said. Thank GOD for Amsterdam!!!
  • rayne
    hehehhe u've just made me feel so much better abt living in Beijing. I've been here over 1.5yrs, I've a great team, met cool other Singaporeans and now that it's time for me to go home... I've found that other than the above 2 likes above...and my very lovely apartment... I seem to look forward to going home even in this hard times. What got me through Beijing? HBO, Discovery Channel, whole sale markets and a partner that visited me every odd month to help me keep my sanity.

    I wish you all the best in your last few mths and can really understand your feelings... (i started my count dwn for home after a year here - am on a 2 yrs contract)
  • ak
    Dilip you dick!!!
    You will suffer like hell in this world for what you have said about our prophet pbuh.I pray that one day you will be killed by a terrorist called mohammed and then you will rot in hell..amen:)
    ps you will soon realise and will regret writing this shit.
  • Dilip Muralidaran
    @Ak: That does not change the fact your prophet married a 6 year old and consummated the marriage when she was 9. He is a pedophile according to modern standards of civilization.

    As for hell, i will worry about it when i die. As for prayers, yours or nobody's prayer works. Instead, hire a satellite tracking device and find where i'm and send your stupid suicide squad. Atleast then, you will get some pussy. 72 actually, which is quite a good deal, if it was true enough, sigh.
  • ak
    wot a prick...im a female...dont need no pussy.fuck off an die and take ur family and people wid u.dont bother writing a reply as im gonna log off now and aint gonna bother reading ur boring replies....by the way im a re-vert and dont u know islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.....muahahaahaa..........dont worry ur life will be hell.
  • Dilip Muralidaran
    @Ak: Thanks, that's re-assuring. We here in india, our army folks are having a fun time killing islamic terrorists by the lot. Of course, you guys blow up and kill a lot of innocent civilians too which is evidence for the fact how barbaric your religious system is. Just read that Saudi Arabia ordered the whipping of a 72 year old woman for the crime of 'talking to a man'.

    Every one of you hindu, christian and islamic hypocrite say the same thing. is the fastest growing religion in the whole world. Truth is, agnosticism is growing as fast as it is. I may not live to see that day (although i would love to) and may probably get killed my a muslim terrorist like you mention but then the day when religion is outlawed is not very far away. Keep praying to your imaginary friends in heaven, that's all you can do for now and of course... kill people like me for being infidel's or "people of the book" according to your moral porn flick, the quran.
  • popagandhi
    ok, that's it folks, closing this thread.
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